tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3705702169406370724.comments2018-12-04T14:08:37.410-08:00Exposing NarniaLaurenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00791785867208216544noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3705702169406370724.post-44155171571329170102009-02-12T07:14:00.000-08:002009-02-12T07:14:00.000-08:00Hi Marie!Thanks for the comment, it's so good to k...Hi Marie!<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the comment, it's so good to know that people are reading this site and taking seriously some of the things I have posted! I appreciate your thoughts - and definitely agree that it is regrettable so many churches are making the "Chronicles of Narnia" into something they never were.<BR/><BR/>I encourage you to keep reading, especially some of the links on the side! <BR/><BR/>Your Sister in Christ,<BR/>Lauren AshleyLaurenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00791785867208216544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3705702169406370724.post-44900532630449388802009-02-09T17:44:00.000-08:002009-02-09T17:44:00.000-08:00Hi Lauren! I just surfed in thru "Far Russia" blog...Hi Lauren! <BR/><BR/>I just surfed in thru "Far Russia" blog. Here's my take on C.S. Lewis and Narnia: he was a Christian, and the Chronicles (which I loved as a kid) have some great Christian allegory in them. However, you cannot and should not push the analogies too far -- they were never intended to replace biblical soteriology. It bothers me far more that churches and CT were coming up with Narnia "Bible studies" after the release of the 1st movie a few years ago. Lewis would be rolling over in his grave.<BR/><BR/>I read the books in 6th grade (I'm now 37) so I may have missed a lot. However, I do remember the universalist bent of The Last Battle's last scene, and I know that C.S. Lewis was not a universalist. So...this is where I guess I would say - it's just fiction, with some Christian allegory - NOT theology. Just as "The Screwtape Letters" do not represent private revelation. But, I could well be wrong and am very much interested in reading your site here. Obviously you have put a lot of work and research into this - well done!Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15411152395819469453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3705702169406370724.post-39538922662317389942008-10-14T08:48:00.000-07:002008-10-14T08:48:00.000-07:00HI,ABOUT THIS (EXPOSING NARNIA)STUFF,I DO AGREE WI...HI,<BR/>ABOUT THIS (EXPOSING NARNIA)<BR/>STUFF,I DO AGREE WITH YOU ON SOME<BR/>THINGS,BUT LORD OF THE RINGS IS TEN TIMES BADDER THAN NARNIA.Chap in the fedorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07154657793238103998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3705702169406370724.post-19022094916750557412008-09-13T14:05:00.000-07:002008-09-13T14:05:00.000-07:00Thank you Lauren, I will consider what you have sa...Thank you Lauren, <BR/>I will consider what you have said.<BR/>(and thanks for visiting my blog!:)<BR/><BR/>-RoseHannah Leighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08156831377417287101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3705702169406370724.post-44407338316470012662008-09-06T18:55:00.000-07:002008-09-06T18:55:00.000-07:00Rose,Thanks for the comment! I can see that you ha...Rose,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the comment! I can see that you have thought about the subject and see some of the problems with C.S Lewis Chronicles of Narnia. <BR/><BR/>It is important to sort through things, it is part of the process of forming a conviction! I would encourage you to read and pray through some of the different scriptures I have listed on this blog. As you said, the Bible is the most important thing for us to read! (Although this does not mean we can never read anything else, there is no book which is better than the Bible:) <BR/><BR/>I have seen the first disney movie, and watched the older versions, and read the books. As of yet I have not seen "Prince Caspian", but may do so some time as I do not believe it is a sin to read/watch them! <BR/><BR/>I believe that we should approach all books and movies with our spiritual armor in place, discerning what is and is not profitable. As Paul said, "All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any." 1 Corinthians 6:12<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for the comment and encouragement! I have been to your blog before, your love for the Lord and desire to serve Him is beautifully evident!<BR/><BR/>In Christ,<BR/>Lauren AshleyLaurenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00791785867208216544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3705702169406370724.post-77493696729455333682008-09-05T13:18:00.000-07:002008-09-05T13:18:00.000-07:00Have you even seen the movies?I do agree with you ...Have you even seen the movies?<BR/>I do agree with you on some things; I do not believe that is was right for the "White Witch" in Narnia to represent the Devil. (I do NOT believe that the Devil is a female.)<BR/>I also do NOT believe that C.S. Lewis should have put Aslan to represent Christ.<BR/>(Thou shalt make no graven images.. for the Lord you God is a jealous God...)<BR/>Aslan's healing powers toward Reepicheap, I thought, were somewhat blasphemous, but I do not believe that Narnia is all bad.<BR/>(and please, don't take me wrong, I am not mad of frustrated with you, just writing down my thoughts.)<BR/>I do agree that C.S. Lewis was exposed to paganisim.<BR/>Also, in Prince Caspian, the horse-guy, I can't remember his name, was supposedly "watching the stars for signs", I did NOT agree with this.<BR/><BR/>I DO agree that we must be careful about Narnia, and not get too absorbed in the fantasy world, we have better things to do than, so to speak, "travel to Narnia" by watching the movies or reading the books too much.<BR/>It IS better to be reading the Bible than it is to be watching or reading Narnia.<BR/>I have not read the books, so I don't know how much difference there is between the books and the movies.<BR/><BR/>I do enjoy reading your blogs...keep up the good work! :D<BR/><BR/>-RoseHannah Leighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08156831377417287101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3705702169406370724.post-60163756321744639622008-08-26T13:16:00.000-07:002008-08-26T13:16:00.000-07:00Julia, Thanks for the encouragement! It is diffi...Julia,<BR/> Thanks for the encouragement! It is difficult to find people who have the same beliefs about Narnia and most of C.S Lewis work. <BR/> I would be honored for you to do a post with a link to this blog! It is my prayer that this message would reach as many people as possible, after that its up to the Holy Spirit! <BR/><BR/>In Christ,<BR/>Lauren AshleyLaurenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00791785867208216544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3705702169406370724.post-34031852955488746222008-08-25T18:16:00.000-07:002008-08-25T18:16:00.000-07:00THANK YOU for doing this blog. I feel the exact sa...THANK YOU for doing this blog. I feel the exact same way about Narnia! (from what I've read so far...I've not read every post)<BR/><BR/>C.S.Lewis was exposed to paganism, and it was not kept out of his books. I'd say most of the Narnia books are based in occultic paganism and witchcraft, and since it gives people 'thrills' and 'excitement' when they read it, they think it must be good, and attribute it to the 'symbolism' of Aslan representing Christ and the White Witch representing Satan. Yikes. I've said more than I started out to. :) Anyway, Would you mind if I did a post on my blog with a link to this one, encouraging my Narnia-loving friends to check it out? <BR/>(http://jewelsbyjulia-lauren.blogspot.com) <BR/><BR/>Blessings!<BR/>Julia from Julia's JournalJuliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18266076830751102809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3705702169406370724.post-10054984115427071162008-08-03T18:32:00.000-07:002008-08-03T18:32:00.000-07:00I think I would have connected the dots in a sligh...I think I would have connected the dots in a slightly different order than you did, but the conclusion is roughly the same, there are definite references to pagan mythologies, and the occult. This is not surprising, as it has long been the practice of less doctrinally sound Christians to try to blend things of Christ with things of the world, one of the reasons why in I Corinthians Paul makes the point that light has no fellowship with darkness.<BR/> The entire Roman Catholic "Church" is an example of blending Christian doctrine with pagan practice. With its system of Saints, Roman Catholicism is very much like pagan Greek and Roman religion, cities and individuals had patron gods, and goddesses, in Roman Catholicism we see countries and individuals with patron Saints, like St. George for England, St. Patrick for Ireland, and St. Andrew for Scotland. Many humanistic historians criticize "Christianity" for simply being a rehash of pagan worship except with this funny idea of the trinity thrown in, and this is largely due to the way Roman Catholicism adapted pagan rites into its worship. C.S Lewis may have dabbled in the occult, but Roman Catholicism is a cult. A cult that has for centuries disguised itself as being Christian. Evidence of how Catholicism incorporates pagan worship can clearly be seen in that Roman Catholic practice varies to some extent around the world due to the different aspects of pagan worship that were adopted in each location. For instance the Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico. Sadly, Roman Catholicism does not have a corner on adopting pagan worship and symbology, and failure to keep separate form the world has been a problem throughout church history. A good recent example of this is the popularity in some circles of Theistic Evolution, a position that has no real scientific backing, and more importantly cannot be defended scripturally either.<BR/> In the case of C.S Lewis, some may argue that instead of trying to subvert Christianity, he was trying to sanctify pagan symbols, to “Take every thought captive to Christ,” but the method he used is the same that has so corrupted Roman Catholicism that it can no longer be considered a true church. It is an attempt to sprinkle Greek/Roman mythology with “Holy water,” but again, “What fellowship has light with darkness?”<BR/><BR/>John CalvinJohn Calvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07946770068698289443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3705702169406370724.post-84638039268469818512008-08-01T12:57:00.000-07:002008-08-01T12:57:00.000-07:00Great point Lauren!I like the pictures you edited:...Great point Lauren!<BR/>I like the pictures you edited:)<BR/> Lots of Love<BR/> SavannahSavannahLynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14790345362156944295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3705702169406370724.post-42638927116957220972008-07-24T19:34:00.000-07:002008-07-24T19:34:00.000-07:00"...willing to stand up for what we believe. And t..."...willing to stand up for what we believe. And trust God for the results!"<BR/> So far you have done a good job of it. I do wish that more people would comment here. I am running out of things to write.<BR/><BR/> Robert L.Robert L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15061991505482978504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3705702169406370724.post-75744731575441467302008-07-22T18:34:00.000-07:002008-07-22T18:34:00.000-07:00Well there you go. I did not know he had such a co...Well there you go. I did not know he had such a connection to the cults. He must have in some small way at least know what he was doing. When I heard part of the Great Devoice read, I thought he was taking poetic license. I am not so sure now that I can attribute an over active imagination to some of his writings now.<BR/> Anyway, is there any single book that he wrote that is Christian with out any pagan cross between the two?<BR/><BR/> Robert L.Robert L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15061991505482978504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3705702169406370724.post-22868926883902482852008-07-22T14:21:00.000-07:002008-07-22T14:21:00.000-07:00Robert,Thanks for the comment and question, I also...Robert,<BR/>Thanks for the comment and question, I also appreciated the email.<BR/><BR/>I do not pretend to know whether or not C.S Lewis is in fact a Christian, or if he intentionally meant to deceive Christians. It is possible he deceived himself, our own hearts are prone to do that. <BR/><BR/>It is a fact that in his youth, before becoming a Christian, C.S Lewis dabbled in the occult. Does this mean that after his conversion he would be called an occultist? No, not if he truly believed in Jesus Christ. But we must judge his works and the fruit themselves. His books are filled with occultism and his depiction of God is flawed at best. Also despite his conversion C.S Lewis maintained friendships with known occultist's and highly recommended there works. <BR/>Here is a quote of C.S Lewis from his work "Surprised by Joy", he said this when all but four of his works were written.<BR/><BR/>“And that started in me something with which, on and off, I have had plenty of trouble since--the desire for the preternatural, simply as such, the passion for the Occult. Not everyone has this disease; those who have will know what I mean. I once tried to describe it in a novel. It is a spiritual lust; and like the lust of the body it has the fatal power of making everything else in the world seem uninteresting while it lasts.”<BR/><BR/>Anyways, to sum up; I do not know whether or not C.S Lewis was in fact saved. But I do know he was exposed to the occult during his life and this clearly comes out in his writings.Laurenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00791785867208216544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3705702169406370724.post-37716650719201370762008-07-22T14:11:00.000-07:002008-07-22T14:11:00.000-07:00Funny, between the time I started commented on you...Funny, between the time I started commented on your last post and when I finished, you had posted again. And at the end of my last comment I mention the Masons. The part about the fellow who served Tash and yet it translated to his salvation, sounds a lot like the Masons. I wonder if he had any connections to that group.<BR/><BR/> Robert Lewis.Robert L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15061991505482978504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3705702169406370724.post-73401437894856331442008-07-22T13:57:00.000-07:002008-07-22T13:57:00.000-07:00You have made it quite clear that the parallels th...You have made it quite clear that the parallels that you have drawn between pagan practice and Mr. Lewis' work, do exist. Though he made a very bad choice when he tampered with the pagan influence, do you suppose it was a thought out attack of his on Christianity, or maybe could it be that he made a very big mistake when writing his books. That is to say, did he connect all the dots that you and other people have. Or are people (I cannot say reading in something other then what he wrote, seeing as though it is in his books) but rather interpreting something more then what he had meant to put in. I guess the final way to put it is, will he go to hell for purposefully trying to mix Christianity with idolatry as part of a cult, or was he really a christian that was just as imperfect as me and you. Obviously since so many people thought and think he was a christian, even a great christian there had to be some fruits or some reason for them to thing so. Like I said earlier in my e-mail, I do not know anything about his personal life.<BR/> However I do believe that the case against Mr. Lewis is strong, however if there is reason for people to believe he was a christian then I will not call him cultist or christian in till I have heard the reason for people to be so convince that Mr. Lewis is christian. So if there is any one on Mr. Lewis' side who would like to enlighten me, please post so I may hear that side of the story. (It would be such a bother to have to research it all myself. But if that is what it takes...)<BR/> But one thing I will say, he made a really really big mistake when he wrote his books. Weather he was Christian or cultist it was still a blunder.<BR/> Many other men that have been thought of as great people, even great Christians, we now know they were Mason. Pastor John Otis is writing a book on the Masons and I recommend it to anyone who is interested in defending the church against one of the most dangerous cults of our time.<BR/><BR/> Thanks to everyone who put this blog together and post on it, please keep up the work.<BR/><BR/>Robert Lewis. (Lewis after Robert Lewis Dabney, not C.S..)Robert L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15061991505482978504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3705702169406370724.post-53722432079729683702008-07-21T21:30:00.000-07:002008-07-21T21:30:00.000-07:00Love your new blog! As you know I am with you all ...Love your new blog! As you know I am with you all the way! Here is my vote of support!<BR/> Your ever loving sister in Him, <BR/> JohannaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com